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Brendan McNeill's avatar

In order for Social Media companies to know the age of any New Zealander attempting to set up an account including school children, every New Zealander would require a Government validated Digital-ID.

Unless the National led coalition Government is using this ’safety’ issue to introduce a trojan horse surveillance state, I can see no rational purpose for its introduction. Parents are responsible for their children’s social media access. Every attempt by the State to act as parent has produced an ocean of unintended consequences with substantial on-going costs to the taxpayer every day.

They should abandon the bill, and Luxon's fulsome support confirms his total lack of any conservative philosophical base. He is demonstrably unsuited to the task which is an ongoing tragedy for New Zealand.

Aroha's avatar

Yep, I'll bang the drum of parental responsibility AGAIN. We have a close friend in her mid-thirties who's parenting 3 boys aged from 11 - 15 while holding down 2 fairly menial jobs. They do not have phones or tablets and their TV watching is restricted. We have watched her struggling with setting and maintaining good boundaries and the current situation is that the boys all adore her and do not constantly moan about what they don't have and can't do. The moral of the story is start as you mean to go on.

A Halfling’s View's avatar

Aroha

By all means bang the drum.

One of the reasons that this proposal is so popular (and it is, believe it or not) is that it enables parents to avoid being parents. When the kids complain about not being able to access their social media platform the parents can say - the law stops you. Thus they take no responsibility for saying no.

Deborah Coddington's avatar

Why are we even surprised any more by this lazy, cynical reporting? The 'who cares' school of journalism. The 'whatever' shrug of filing copy. It damn well does matter, because it smothers the apathy which, as other comments have noted, if this legislation is going to be effective, universal digital photographic government ID will be mandated.

A Halfling’s View's avatar

You are quite correct. The unintended consequence will be the institution of the age verification system which will be wide-ranging.

On another matter Deborah, I had to rush this one out.

Proofing OK???

Deborah Coddington's avatar

Stop it! (Actually, just a tiny one, Vedd not Wedd. Sorry)

Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

Well done collating this. And persevering through what must have been paywall hell. It just confirms MSM are dead in the water tbh, and looking at the comments (eg on that Nats YouTube post), much of their audience is aware of the Agenda 2030 Trojan horse this bill represents.

Southern Sally's avatar

Eye catching headlines which may have been more accurate could have been “Luxon wants Digital ID Requirement for Social Media Use”, or “National proposes Government Surveillance of Social Media Users” or “National Digital IDs Proposed Under Guise of Keeping Kids Safe”, or perhaps “Nanny State wants to Snoop on your Social Media Too”.

Mike Hunt's avatar

Little wonder Wedd got the messaging so wrong, in a past life she was a BBC and then a TVNZ reporter.

While the genesis of this bill may be well intentioned you only need to cast your eye back over very recent history to see the results of government controls over social media.

Is it a Trojan horse? If it’s not one at the outset it will become one over time. I remember when gst was only ever going to be 10%.

Ms Wedd is an MP for the wrong party.

Luxon had better start reading the room soon, he’s got bigger problems than allowing more government control over freedoms.

What’s next telescreen’s in every home?

Digital Rights NZ's avatar

The social media ban for under 16s is one step towards a totalitarian surveilance state...

Don't be fooled by this trojan horse.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-166938035