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A case could be made that Iran has been at war with Israel for the last couple of decades. Iran has utilised various proxies across the Middle East to attack Israel and has constantly called for "Death to Israel". Perhaps the 'war' didn't start a few days ago but twenty years ago and has now just entered a different phase. That doesn't make it legal but Iseal could argue"self defence"

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David concludes “Within her terms of reference Helen Clark is correct. The use of force against Iran is unlawful using a strict interpretation of the UN Charter. But the issue is more complex than that.” It certainly is.

International law is not like law in the domestic law sense where it is, especially in a democracy and however imperfect, a reflection of the will of the people (except where unelected judges assume authoritarian powers), with established institutions for adjudication and enforcement. International law is more like a weapon to be used to advance other agendas. As I know from personal experience going back to the Vietnam War, the Labour Party is knee-jerk anti-American and almost as consistently a friend of left-wing dictators (not that Labour Party politicians have that on their own). Invocations of international law by Clark and Goff need to be seen in that light.

Regarding the law on war ably summarised by David, one wonders how the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights affects the position. It commits nations to respect the civil and political rights of individuals, including the right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, electoral rights and the right to due process and a fair trial. Iran ratified it in 1975, but blatantly and consistently violates the obligations it assumed. Where the interests of America and Israel in protecting their own citizens coincide with potential assistance to the citizens of Iran who are victims of tyranny in breach of the ICCPR, that may justify the use of force. It certainly means that Helen Clark’s terms of reference omit a vital component.

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